| Condition: || Used || Year: || 1964 |
| Engine Type: || Twin Inboard/Outboard || Make: || Lyman |
| Engine Make: || AMC || Model: || Mariner |
| Engine Model: || V8C188 188 hp Fireball || Type: || Cabin Cruiser |
| Primary Fuel Type: || Gas || Length (feet): || 28 |
| Fuel Capacity: || 76 - 100 Gallons || Hull Material: || Wood |
| For Sale By: || Private Seller || Trailer: || Not Included |
| Hull ID Number: || JC-1000 || Use: || Fresh Water |
Here we have an icon of style, history, and American built boating charm. This boat was made at the Lyman Clinker factory right here in Sandusky, Ohio and has only been in fresh water. Of only 189 28' Mariners produced, this is the first one built. That's right, THE VERY FIRST 28' LYMAN MARINER EVER PRODUCED. Apparently, Lyman began all their serial numbers with 1000 from researching online. As you can see on the ID tag, as well as on all the panels throughout the boat, this one is 1000. How about that for historical significance? It is a project boat though and needs restoring, but most of the wood is dry and solid still. There's a few spots that will need to be replaced with new wood, mostly the back of the transom, and on the bottom of the rub rail itself. The deck is fairly solid and looks like it's been replaced not too many years back, one obvious clue being the Phillips head screws in it, an original 64 deck would've been straight blades. I walked the entire deck and no place felt like I'd fall through although I did note some flexing near the window corners, but it still felt like the support under the deck and not the teak itself. The black seams are still plyable and I saw no breaks or gaps in them. The most notable shine of this diamond in the rough are her engines, two AMC 327s, 188hp each (fireball), they have low profile side draft carbs Barr Marine exhaust manifolds, and intakes have the Gray Marine ID tag. Both engines turn over and likely run, and both are very clean and sharp for their age as you can see in the pics. I bought the boat as a package deal with several other boats and honestly I'm not big on wooden boats, my thing is sailboats, I have many, so I didn't see much value in this at first, until I looked inside and researched it's historical significance. From what I can see, it looks like it had been restored possibly in the early 2000s judging by the aluminum fuel tanks, one dated 2000 (50 gal), the other dated 2002 (45 gal). It does have weathering on the exterior from sitting outside, and there's some wood spots that'll have to be replaced mostly on the back of the transom, but overall, the majority of the boat is solid and could just use some sanding and new varnish and paint. The deck is fully intact and the black joint seams are still pliable and not cracking out. There are a couple soft spots in the deck around the window area that feel like the support is weak under it, but the deck itself is still fairly solid and doesn't seem to be deteriorated. The steering wheel and gauges are missing, I can't find them anywhere on the boat. I have some a gauge set and steering wheel from a newer boat that you may have if you like, but they aren't the same period era as the boat, so if you're going for an all original look, you'll probably want to hunt down originals. I'm offering it up for a minimum starting bid, the engines alone are worth that. If you end up being he winning bidder and just want the engines, you're more than welcome to come pull them and I'll keep the hull no problem. I can reuse the mountain of good teak and mahogany (I'm assuming, still learning my woods) for repairing my other boats. If you have the eye and value for a true classic and want the whole thing, she's all yours. There is no reserve, what you see for the bid price is what it'll sell for and what you see in the pics is all included. There is no trailer. Good luck, and thanks for taking an interest.
On Apr-05-17 at 17:16:25 PDT, seller added the following information:PLEASE NOTE: IF YOU HAVE A ZERO OR NEGATIVE FEEDBACK SCORE, YOUR BID WILL AUTOMATICALLY BE CANCELLED UNLESS YOU CONTACT ME PRIOR TO BIDDING. TO ALL OTHER LEGITIMATE BIDDERS, IF YOU ARE OUTBID BY ONE OF THE ABOVE, DON'T BE DISCOURAGED, WATCH FOR YOUR HIGH BIDDER STATUS TO BE REINSTATED. I'VE SOLD MANY BIG TICKET ITEMS ON EBAY BEFORE, HAVE A PERFECT FEEDBACK SCORE, AND KNOW ALL TOO WELL HOW THE SCAMMERS CAN MAKE SELLING ITEMS A NIGHTMARE. ONLY INTERESTED IN SERIOUS BIDDERS WHO UNDERSTAND AND RESPECT THE PROCESS. THANK YOU.
On Apr-06-17 at 08:57:25 PDT, seller added the following information:Found out some valuable information from a great guy. He owns a custom marine shop that was the one who replaced the deck and other work on it between 1999 to 2001. Sounded like one of those people who knows his stuff, he rattled off more technical info on it than what I could keep up writing down. His company's specialty is antique and wooden boats. He just happened to run across the ebay ad, recognized the boat, and sent me a message. Said he's only worked on three "firsts" in his life and this was one of them. I'll be meeting with him in a day or so to find out more, take digital pics of old pictures of the work as it was being done, boat in the water etc. that he has. It sounded like he has a lot of information in his file on it so I'm not sure I'll be able to get all that crammed in the description here nor extra pictures added since ebay only allows 24, but I'll try to substitute one of the less needed duplicate photos maybe with a historical pic. It goes without saying though that the winning bidder will get all the details and extra pics that I have that I couldn't get to fit in here. Also, if you're a serious buyer, I can email any additional pics and info to you as well, just click the contact seller button and send me your email address.
So far, from what I could scribble down quickly from our phone conversation, he told me the prior owner had contracted his shop between 1999 and 2001 to do the following: * Boat was bought and moved from Warren Ohio to Sandusky Ohio.
* New teak deck was added. He said rarely are the original decks solid enough that they can be left as added support but this one was so the deck you see is actually laid atop the original deck.
* New knee was installed.
* Repaired port bulkhead.
* Permanently removed swim platform (per customer styling request).
* Engines were removed and sent out.
* Engines were rewired.
* One gas tank was made new.
...and the list goes on but that's what I have so far. I'll be getting the additional info in the next couple days and post it here when I do.
On Apr-06-17 at 17:12:17 PDT, seller added the following information:Also, some key ID numbers: Engines - V8C188 188 hp AMC 327 Transmissions - Velvet Drive AS1-71C 1:1